How To Avoid Errors With Intentional Circular References
Feb 23, 2014
I'm trying to create a basic Excel document intended for use as an navigation log. I'm having a problem with circular references.Here is what I'm trying to do:
True track: A1=B1-C1
Mag. track: B1=A1+C1
Mag. variation: C1
The idea being when you open the document you enter the true track or magnetic track depending on the information derived from the chart. The document then calculates either mag. or true track for you depending on where you entered the information. I then have 25 or so rows of this.
The problem I'm having is that once excel "sees" any circular references in the sheet it brakes down and some other functions stop working. Since you usually don't use all the rows available the document will always contain these circular references.
I know I can disable the circular reference warning and that fixes the issue but as I'm intending to share the log I'd rather find another solution.I tried IFERROR and I couldn't get it to work.
Is there no function similar to IFERROR so that if a function contains a circular reference it will return some fixed value?
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Aug 14, 2006
I have the following formula in cell L51 of all sheets calculating the volume depending on the monthly index that is chosen from the drop down menu in a particular sheet. =If(MIndex=0, SUM(D33:L50),If(MIndex=1,SUM(D34:L50),If(MIndex=2,SUM(D35:L50), 0))). I am getting the following message and I do not understand what it is about.
Microsoft Office Excel cannot calculate a formula. Cell references in the formula refer to the formula's result, creating a circular reference. Try one of the following
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Aug 25, 2008
15.2
13.9
6.1
9.19
and i wanted to divide these all by 4.
I can do this by clicking on a cell OTHER than one of those four above, and do:
=A1/4 (if 15.2 was A1) and copy that formula down.
But then I have the originals AND the new ones in separate columns.
I want to just be able to divide those original numbers by 4 without resorting to using other cells, but if I do =A1/4 on A1 itself it says that i have made a "circular reference"
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Sep 14, 2007
I'm looking for something that could report the details of (all) circular references in a workbook.
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Feb 21, 2014
I need to Average the cells I7, I9, F12:F18, M12:M18 in Cell G2
Cell F12 is an Average of its respective cells bellow. (and so forth)
NRT will = 1
N/O will = 0
I have cells F12:F18, M12:M18 indicate NRT in the cells when selected I would like N/O to also be displayed however it comes across as 0.
How do I avoid the #DVI/0! Errors and get the averages to calculate appropriately.
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Jun 21, 2013
I am trying to make a formula use an IF statement to identify different cells on a different sheet to pull raw data from.
However I've never tried formulas involving multiple sheets before.
This is the formula i get a circular reference for =IF('Store Input'!I6:J6=Lewis,(('Store Input'!C6:D6/1.2)/100*0.75))
I am not entirely sure what im doing thats causing confusion but ill explain the desired effect.
If a Cell has a value of "Name" then take data from cell "X" and do calculation /1.2 /100 *0.75 on a separate sheet.
Further more i want it to apply to multiple cell possibilities. so like the one above except repeated on different cells.
So as well as the above, i want it to perform the same operation for a set of cells further to its right and so and so forth.
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Mar 9, 2009
I am trying to create a calculator in excel that has five parts. I want to manipulate each part based on the other parts. I cannot figure out how to remove the formula and replace it with the derived number without a circular reference. The circular references slow down the main macros of my program.
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Nov 3, 2009
I have an excel database which links into Outlook and Word via macros to automate sending of e-mails and creating documents, etc. Obviously, I have created the correct VBA references and things have been working fine for a while.
However, this is a shared workbook over a small number of machines and due to a recent upgrade, one of the machines is running Vista and Office 2007, whereas the rest run Office 2000 and NT.
All works well until the workbook is opened and saved on the Office 2007 machine as this then changes all the references to Word 12, Outlook 12, etc, instead of Word 9 as seen in Office 2000. Then, when an office 2000 machine opens the workbook, it has a compile error as it cannot find the office 12 references!!
I have created some code to fix this, which uses the AddFromGuid method, which works ok, e.g.:
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Jan 14, 2013
Is there a way to prevent formulae from losing their references when the references get replaced.
I have formula which refer to a worksheet that is dynamic, meaning that the worksheet holding the data (CONTROL_1) differs from one query to the next is imported from another source. The datasource contents and format are identical.
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Jan 7, 2013
Need to create Working order (in Excel 2007) for filling machine in my factory. Working order is changeable from day to day and the deference is product quantity. Product quantity in working order [File - Working order] is changing according to the each sales plan [7-Jan-13, 8-Jan-13] - (File Working order is Linked to the appropriate sales plan in this case - [7-Jan-13]).
Anyway, I need to change the source workbook "sales plan" from [7-Jan-13] to [8-Jan-13] by changing source workbook name in red cell [File - Working order] and not to browsing location?
All source workbooks [sales plan 7-Jan-13, 8-Jan-13]are at the same location in the same folder, only difference is the source workbook names. So, is it possible to change source workbook name (File - Working order - red cell) for all external references (File - Working order - green cells) at the same time, and avoid annoying browsing?
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Oct 22, 2009
I have a number of statements within the Sheet Event Code (Excel 2007). Three times lately I have added a column and had to go back into the code and find all of the references that needed changing to reflect the new column.
I have been working on this for a couple of days and even tried EE, but to no success.
I have read that Defined Names / Constants should be used as often as possible, but even trying that, the VBA code errors out or "hangs up". Even within Bill Jalen's book (VBA and Macros 2007), there is nothing that addresses this, especially using Intersect.
Private Sub Worksheet_Change(ByVal Target As Range)
Dim rng As Range
On Error GoTo mEnd
Set rng = Sheets("Log").[F14:F10000]
If Not Intersect(rng, Target) Is Nothing Then
If Target = "" Then
With Sheets("Log")
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Feb 10, 2014
I set up formulas to count text characters in a range of cells. I'm tracking attendance and payments for a small yoga studio.
All I need to do is count "Y"s for prepaid attendance and "DI"s for drop-ins. I have the formulas working but they are absolute so inserting a row will break my sheet.
=COUNTIF(E14:Z14,"*Y*")
=COUNTIF(E11:Z11,"*DI*")
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Nov 25, 2007
It is suppose to be that if the employee is "FT" and has worked >=4 years the return is 15. But if the employee is FT and has worked 2 years but less than 4 years then it is suppose to return 10 (these are days off) Or if the employee is FT and has worked 1 year, but less than 2 then it should return 5 days off. And all the others in the column get no days off.
I have tried to do it with structured references and with cell references I get a column of zeros!
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Mar 2, 2009
I am using the dsum formula to sum some values...the formula in B2 is:
=DSUM(BaseSistemasFebrero,"vlfinf",OFFSET('Planes Entidades'!B$1,0,0,COUNTA('Planes Entidades'!B$1:B$49),1))
The Planes Entidades sheet the data is layed out like this: ....
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Aug 3, 2009
Circular: 02 in status bar. I got this message
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May 9, 2008
I'm trying to update a cell with today's date based on the choice from a drop-down list in the neighboring cell, but only if the cell is empty.
Source list for cell B2:Rcvd
Passed
Returned
Flagged
If Rcvd is chosen from the drop-down list, put today's date in A1, but only if A1 is not already populated. Don't do anything if any of the other 3 options are chosen.
I can't seem to use the A1 cell in a conditional statement to check it's status without creating a circular reference.
Trying to do it without resorting to VB.
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Feb 8, 2007
Function VLOOKAllSheets(Look_Value As Variant, Tble_Array As Range, _
Col_num As Integer, Optional Range_look As Boolean)
Dim wSheet As Worksheet
Dim vFound
On Error Resume Next
For Each wSheet In ActiveWorkbook.Worksheets
With wSheet
Set Tble_Array = .Range(Tble_Array.Address)
vFound = WorksheetFunction.VLookup _
(Look_Value, Tble_Array, _
Col_num, Range_look)
End With
If Not IsEmpty(vFound) Then Exit For
Next wSheet
Set Tble_Array = Nothing
VLOOKAllSheets = vFound
End Function
It is a vlookup across all worksheets, it is used on the index sheet. But it is causing a circular error when the search term is not found AND if the formula is in the same cell as the column index cell. I need an expert to adjust the code so that it doesn't do vlookup in the index/current sheet and the recursive error will be eliminated.
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Jun 25, 2009
Let's say I have a sheet called Category. Column A contains code; column B contains description. Now I have another sheet in which either column F contains a category code or column G contains a category description. I want to look up the code in column F if the description is given or the description in column G if the code is given. I thought I might be able to do something like:
in F2: IF($G2<>"",INDEX(Category!A:A,MATCH($G2,Category!$B:$B,0)),"")
in G2: IF($F2<>"",INDEX(Category!B:B,MATCH($F2,Category!$A:$A,0)),"")
(and then copy the formulae down the rest of the columns of course). In other words, if the cells were both empty then there would be no common dependency; it would just set them both to empty. However, if I provided either value then it would overwrite the formula in that cell so there would be only one formula left and nothing to be circular dependent about.
However, it must be looking at the condition itself and seeing the two columns in common because it is coming up with a circular dependency. I thought I might be able to trick it by having IF(INDEX($G:$G,ROW())<>"",... but it still doesn't work.
This sort of situation must crop up from time to time. How do we get around it?
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Apr 20, 2007
I have 2 cells which I will select on a work book; (say A1 and A2). A1 is the input cell and the formula and the result generated is in A2.
Suppose I input 3 in A1 and A2 shows 60, what I also want to do is input 60 in A2, which should show me 3 in A1, without destroying the formulas.
In short both cells will have formula and both cells will be input cells for each other.
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May 20, 2009
I need to get .02 of a total.
But I need to add this number without getting a circular reference.
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May 17, 2007
i got three cells namely; M7, AC7 and BA7. Initially, an input value is entered in cell M7 which will be processed to give AC7. An IF function is entered in cell BA7. This IF function is really simple. It states that IF the difference between the values of M7 and AC7 is greater than 1 then, decrease 0.01 from M7, otherwise, retain the value of M7. The syntax is:
=IF((M7-AC7)>1, M7-0.01, M7)
As I told you, it is really simple and looks fine. I have no problem with it so far. The problem came about when I tried to make the circular reference. I am trying to make M7 to equal BA7. Well, before I made the circular reference, I made a manual entering of the values of cell M7. What I have done was that I put a value like 29.94 in M7 then I let the calculation to proceed. The the value that I get in BA7 (i.e. 29.93), I re-entered it in M7 then I repeated the process until I got a value (i.e. 29.90) that was not changing due to the use of the IF function. The manual calculations are shown in Table2 of the attached file.
I said to myself instead of entering the values manually, I can use a circular reference so that the cell M7 = cell BA7. Unfortunatelly, the circulation of the values instead of giving me 29.90 which is the right answer, it gave me 29.89 which ment that Excel has done one more step further of the IF function. In other words, Excel should have stopped decreasing 0.01 from M7 when M7-AC7 was less than one. This is achieved at M7=29.90 (as clearly seen in Table2). However, Excel went one step further and done: BA7=29.90-0.01=29.89 then it stopped subtraction at 29.89 which is not correct.
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Sep 25, 2007
I've often lurked in the background here and have found great solutions to my problems from the ozgrid FAQ's and email outs.
I have a custom VBA formula that has a heap of ranges as inputs. I loop through one range then perform calculation on the other ranges in the formula.
The formula is to work on 2 sets of data, 1 with more columns than the other. I've set Optional variables for the unnecessary columns.
For some reason I keep getting circular references on the 2nd set of Data.
I've attached the spreadsheet (stripped down) to show both examples.
I'm absolutely confused why the "teaching" one calculates correctly and "support" gives a Circular reference error.
I've set the Iteration in options and this corrects it, however I'd like to know why one works perfect and the other fails?
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Aug 9, 2008
How do I add the "Circular Reference" permanently to my excel tool bar? Every time i need to use this tool I have to do the following:
-tools
-customize
-check the "circular reference"
-close
..it appears and I can use it. Then after i type something in another cell it disappears again! I would like it to ALWAYS be in the tool bar as a standard item even when opening a new book/ sheet or whatever. I want it to be a standard tool.
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Dec 8, 2013
Several places on my spread sheets I need to compare an action date to today's date.
I use: [Code] .....
in one cell and the fomulas to compare a date in a different cell to that cell.
I get the message "Circular References" for the cell the the above "today()" formula.
I do not get circular references in the cell that refer to the today cell, just the today cell.
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Mar 2, 2014
This formula might be the problem for the error message.
SUMPRODUCT((MOD(COLUMN(C3:CO3)-COLUMN(OFFSET(C3:CO3,,,1,1)),3)=0)*C3:CO3)
I have other cells with the same formula (but with different range i.e. D3:CP3), yet it doesn't have circular reference error message.
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Nov 3, 2009
I have these cells:
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/427/excelj.jpg
The two center cells are the average of the top, bottom, left, and right cells. Of course the two center cells will therefore reference each other.
I enabled iteration in Excel options but it will not calculate the answer. I am getting a #value error. I checked the cells, the equation is right and they are all numbers.
What am i doing wrong?
See the work book. I had to rewrite everything manually to get it to work (But I have a HUUUGE matrix and rewriting everything will take forever) Please look at the work book and tell me why one group of cells is returning answers and hte other is returning a #value error.
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Aug 24, 2011
Is there anyway to create a circular reference between three cells, and still enter text freely into any of the cells?
I've speculated that it might be possible by utilizing three or more other cells slaved to the first three, and simply kept off to the side.
To give a better understanding of what I'm trying to do, I've created a finance spreadsheet for our shop's snack bar, and below is a screenshot of a portion of said spreadsheet.
As you can see, all of the formulas are set up to where Columns F, G, and H are directly affected by what I put in Column E, but I don't want to be limited to just Column E; I want the other users and I to have more freedom than that.
Once again, my goal is to set up a 3-cell circular reference in which data can be typed into any of them. I've considered setting up a macro, but those are only active temporarily, and I would prefer the calculations to be made in real-time.
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Sep 4, 2009
I'm at my wits end trying to work out why I'm getting a circular reference when this code runs:
Private Sub TextBox1_Change()
Cells(Rows.Count, "K").End(xlUp).Offset(1).Value = Range(TextBox1.LinkedCell).Value
With Range("K5").Resize(40, 1)
.FormulaR1C1 = "=OFFSET(" & Cells(Rows.Count, "K").End(xlUp).Address(True, True, xlR1C1) & ",-(ROW(RC)-ROW(R5C)+1),0,1,1)"
.Value = .Value
End With
End Sub
The circular reference cell is K29. I have an "X" in K46 after which all the values in TextBox1 are copied.
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Jan 10, 2010
if i enter a value in 1 cell and want it to increase by a percentage how can this be done without having a sum column etc
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Jun 12, 2007
Workbook attached. Workbook contains 53 sheets. 52 sheets are identical and represent one sheet for each week of the year. At the bottom of each column is a SUMIF function that member JimFuller1 showed me how to use. The 53rd sheet is where I would like to calculate all of the totals (per item and per first-aid kit) I tried using the same SUMIF principal, applying it to all sheets but I keep getting a circular reference. I asked a coworker of mine and he said that it was due to the fact that the cells I am trying to put in the SUMIF function allready are part of a different SUMIF formula.
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